Posted by e (172.144.82.233) on November 11, 2002 at 12:55:37:
In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: posted by eric on October 30, 2002 at 06:12:56:
: COOKOO
: COOKOO
: Can you say "chemical imbalance?"
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: : DOUBT
: : Think way you may. Guess what you may. Your thinking and your guess has absolutely no bearing on what is coming down the pike so your thinking guessing has no more importance than picking the winning Lotto ticket once or twice a week.
: : There is absolutely no reason for me to change your thinking or guessing because it doesn't effect the real world and your thinking and guessing is strickly speculative.
: : It seems that your consistant harping on the issue is more on your mind than it is on Steve's mind at this moment in time.
: : Keep it up and people who visit this message board may start to think and guess that it possibly Steve who is posting the messages using the posting name of "Doubt" and one of his IP computer addresses.
: : Your thinking and guessing is a moot item and has absoultely no importance at all. What is important is that I know what is coming down the pike and you are attempting to think and guess who the attorney is that is representing me in Victoria and when the paperwork will be served.
: : Post and say what you please but I have decided that what I say in my reply to you will not change any of your thinking and guessing, so what is the use to waste anymore of my time with you.
: : For those who are thinking and guessing along your lines, let it be and they are free to think and guess what they want to also.
: : In the interim, you may want to tell Steve not to spend foolishly any of that money he alleges he received for BizWatch because if he elects not to represent himself or lose by default, he is going to need it for attorney fees.
: : And that's the name of that tune so sayeth Robert Blake. Let the words be carved into the Pylons so sayeth Rameses. I am not a crook so sayeth Richard Nixon. I don't steal other comedian's jokes so sayeth Milton Berle. Of all the gin joints in the world why did she have to come into mine asks Humphrey Bogart to Dooly Wilson (Sam) the Piano Player in the movie Casablanca? Take your hands off me you dirty screws as the prison guards lead Jimmy Cagney down the last mile to the electric chair in the movie Public Enemy.
: : Why do the men I meet go nutsy on me asks Helen Hunt in the movie As Good As It Gets and Steve says to Debra, don't ask me, did do something wrong and unlawful to Young?
: : Ken Young
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: : : Young:
: : : Like I said - it just does not make any sense. It has got to be a hoax. I don't know you or steve but if there ends up really being a suit I would certainly admit I was wrong. No big deal. But the fact remains that this is almost certainly a hoax in my opinion. The entire premise is just so illogical. My opinion (and this is just my guess) is that you really did want to file a lawsuit but you cannot find a lawyer to take the case. I think you may have been told that this entire mess is frivolous and a waste of the courts time. I think you are stalling for time while trying to convince a lawyer to please take your case. I think you may be trying to save face but realize you are stuck because you made such outrageous claims.
: : : Think about it. Why would your "lawyer" need more than a handful of messages if they proved steve's guilt? Why would he need 6 boxes of them? Do you think a judge is going to read 6 boxes of this message board crap? If you can prove you were libeled that's all you need. Why would your lawyer allow you to stay on these boards inciting riots like you do? Hell, even Robert Blake's lawyer resigned when Blake agreed to an interview with Diane Sawyer. Lawyer's do not tell their clients to continue mouthing off on message boards. They tell their clients to shut up. Why is it taking your lawyer so long to put together a simple libel case?
: : : None of this makes any sense unless it really is a hoax.
: : : : Did anyone really think that I would bend to Steve's demands of me?
: : : : Who in the world does Steve think he is? He has never volunteered any information I have asked of him.
: : : : Furthermore nowing how headstrong Steve has demonstrated that he is, do you really think that my attorneys want it to be known who they are so Steve can challenge them and attempt to try his case with them even before he is served with the initial paperwork?
: : : : This is one show that Steve can't control regardless of his computer prowess which he has already demonstrated that he uses to even play attorney on the internet.
: : : : Forget it, both you and the rest of them are going to have to wait until Steve receives his papers to uncover who my attorney is and that's final.
: : : : Believe what you want to believe and when you are informed that Steve has received the paperwork, they the both of you can start posting message on the internet in the form of partaking the role of a pseudo attorney as to the credibility of the several counts listed in the pleading.
: : : : Here something else you may want to pass on to Steve. I understand that if Steve had not made his boasting statement of "p*ss on your attorney, most likely if Steve needed an extension to locate an attorney to represent him then maybe my attorney would have granted him the extension.
: : : : Now, if Steve is going to retain an attorney to representing and he needs an extension, he is going to have to locate an attorney to file a formatted motion with the court granting him an extension.
: : : : Not such a smart move on Steve's part just to pound his chest attempting to demonstrate that he is not concerned about facing my attorney in a courtroom and the lawsuit in general.
: : : : Yep, roared like a Lion before he is served and once he is served may start mewing like a pussy cat in pain.
: : : : Maybe Steve should have spent more of his productively authoring a book made available to professional agents and consumers how to recognize the dishonest business practices of some insurance companies and some agents instead of attackeing me.
: : : : With all of Steve's active time he had in the insurance and financial services industry, it would have made a great short story.
: : : : Ken Young
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: : : : : Young:
: : : : : Nothing personal. I just don't believe there is a lawsuit. It simply does not make sense. It does not take this long no matter how bad or slow the lawyer is.
: : : : : I am correct when I say that immediately after your lawsuit business began to soar to unbelievable heights. This success...which many attribute to you...created the immense value that Art leveraged into a billion dollar empire.
: : : : : Yes, Randy sued Art. You fail to mention that Art also countersued Randy. And you always fail to mention that the entire case (all charges) was dismissed.
: : : : : As far as the Tampa Bay Lightning. They have always been a poor-performing organization-both on the ice and financially. The new management has already discovered what Art and even the Devil Rays found out the hard way-the city will not support professional sports. The new management will probably move the team or sell. Yes, the new management sued Art but why did you fail to mention that Art countersued? And why do you always fail to tell us the outcome of the disagreement?
: : : : : As far as your question about the lawsuit. I have no interest in it other than the fact that you ram it down our throats every single day on every board you post on. I've grown to believe that it is a hoax. I mean who ever heard of refusing to name your counsel? Who ever heard of counsel refusing to speak with the adversary? Who ever heard of counsel being offended by their alleged opponent? This whole scenario just seems so juvenile to me that it just can't be true.
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: : : : : : TO: DOUBT
: : : : : : What is wonderful about our country is that you can believe what you want to and even post your beliefs if you care to.
: : : : : : That is your belief, I respect it but I am simply informing you that your beliefs are incorrect.
: : : : : : When Steve receives the paperwork, will stand up like a man and admit that your beliefs were incorrect by posting a message here to that accord also?
: : : : : : My attorney has reviewed the documentation I have sent to him as it is sent to him by me which as been a period of several months now. Obviously I have to first review each and every document I have in file to see first if it relates to the planned lawsuit, and then he has to block out the time to review them obviously since I am not his firm's only client.
: : : : : : Another contributing factor is that each and every day, more documented evidence is being posted to the Internet to support my case that ties the whole conspiracy count together involving other parties.
: : : : : : Yes, my attorney has asked me to establish a cut-off date with him because he feels that the longer I wait, although I will be collecting more information as to the conspiracy count, my Canadian attorney he wants to take the first steps to have Steve enjoined by the court from posting any further libelous and defaming imaginary debillitating postings he has directed at me.
: : : : : : No, you are incorrect. The record will show that the outcome of the lawsuit was the first sign that Art Williams could be defeated afterall after many others had failed in their attempts to do so.
: : : : : : It was the compalint filed by Randy to the Federal Government that launched the Feds to investigate Williams to which Sandy Weill then purchased the Williams ageny for a sum of $105-million as the Feds were drumming Williams out of the industry.
: : : : : : What Williams did with the $105-million made him a billionaire. Williams was also drummed out of the Tampa Bay area with some help from the press together with the additional adverse publicity he had recived when the new owner of the Tampa Bay Lightening Hockey Team sued him also.
: : : : : : Do you plan to contribute to Steve's defense fund personally or are you just shooting from the hip as Steve has demonstrated that he does when he refers to my planned lawsuit as a bluff also?
: : : : : : Strangely enough you seem to have just as much interest in the planned lawsuit as Steve has taken in his request to establish when my attorney will be pulling the trigger. Hmmmmm
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: : : : : : : Young:
: : : : : : : I simply cannot believe that there will be any lawsuit. This is a joke. Yes, I totally, absolutely, positively believe you are bluffing. There is no reason a simple civil suit would take longer than a capital murder case to put together. Your so-called lawyer has had boxes and boxes of message copies for months according to you. It just does not make any sense. You have to be bluffing IMHO.
: : : : : : : BTW, the publicity you generated for Art Williams made him a billionaire and catapulted ALW to record sales almost overnight. You are most responsible for the extraordinary success of the company. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXTO: DOUBT
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: : : : : : : : I HAVE MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT MY ATTORNEY HAS NOT YET HAD SERVED STEVE WITH THE PAPERWORK.
: : : : : : : : THEREFORE, WHEN YOU SAY THERE IS "NO LAWSUIT", YES, IT HAS NOT YET OFFICIALLY BEEN FILED.
: : : : : : : : WHEN YOU INFER THAT I AM "BLUFFING" AND I HAVE NOT MADE ARRANGEMENTS WITH ONE ATTORNEY IN VICTORIA, BRITISH COLUMBIA, AND ANOTHER ATTORNEY IN ATTORNEY IN ILLINIOS TO BE REPRESENTING ME IN MY SOON TO BE FILED LAWSUIT AGAINST STEVE, YOU HAVE CONVINCED YOURSELF INTO ANOTHER FAIRYTAIL YOU ARE SO WELL KNOWN FOR.
: : : : : : : : THE LAW WILL NOT PERMIT ME TO DEPOSED ANYONE UNTIL THE LAWSUIT NAMING STEVE AS THE DEFENDANT IS RESPONDED TO BY STEVE'S REPRESENTATIVE, AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY STEVE, THE OWNER OF THE BOARDHOST DOMAIN FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING WHO MISLED IS, THE "SPARKIES", AND MIKE WHO HAS ALSO PLAYED A PART AND IMPLICATED BY STEVE IN THE CIVIL CONSPIRACY HAVE A PART IN.
: : : : : : : : ONCE THE IDENTITY OF THOSE COWARDS WHO HAVE BEEN AFRAID TO STAND UP LIKE MEN AND IDENTIFY THEMSELVES TO ME ARE DETERMINED THAT ALSO HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE SAME TYPE OF UNLAWFUL ACTS AS THE LAWSUIT WILL PROVE STEVE HAS BEEN IN THAT HE HAS DIRECTED AT ME, THEY TOO WILL BE ANSWERABLE FOR THEIR ACTS ALSO.
: : : : : : : : I ONCE PROMISED MIKE AND ALSO MARK THAT IF THEY DID NOT IMMEDIATELY STOP THEIR LIBELOUS AND UNTRUE STATEMENTS DIRECTED AT ME THEY ALSO WOULD BE EXPOSING THEMSELVES TO LITIGATION BUT THEY ALSO THOUGHT I WAS BLUFFING.
: : : : : : : : I HAD ALSO CAUTIONED THE "SPARKIES" NOT TO STICK THEIR NOSES INTO MY PERSONAL BUSINESS IN THE MATTER OF STEVE, BUT THEY ALSO ELECTED TO BECOME PART OF THE UNLAWFUL CONSPIRACY TO CAUSE ME HARM BUY TURNING A DEAF EAR TO ME.
: : : : : : : : THE "SPARKIES" HAVE ALREADY HEARD FROM MY LOCAL ATTORNEY. MIKES ATTORNEY NEIL HAS ALSO ASSURED ME THAT HE WOULD SPEAK TO MIKE ABOUT HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THIS MATTER.
: : : : : : : : IF I CAN DETERMINE STEVE C'S. IDENTITY IS, QUITE NATURALLY HE ALSO WILL BE ANSWERABLE IN A COURT OF LAW FOR HIS ACTIONS DIRECTED TOWARDS ME ALSO.
: : : : : : : : ART WILLIAMS AND MILICO ALSO THOUGHT I WAS BLUFFING AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. THEY WOUND UP PAYING ME $75,000 WHICH I RECEIVED FREE AND CLEAR AND I PAID NO ATTORNEY FEES EITER.
: : : : : : : : THE PRUDENTIAL THOUGHT I WAS BLUFFING AND WHEN THEY HEARD FROM MY ATTORNEY, THEY MADE AN OFFER TO SETTLE WITH ME IN THE AMOUNT OF FIRST $35,000 AND THEN RAISED THE FIGURE TO $50,000 WHICH I REJECTED. LOOK WHAT IT COST PRUDENTIAL AFTER I REJECTED THEIR TOKEN OFFER TO PAY ME MY ACTUAL DAMAGES AFTER I WAS ASKED AND INVITED TO THE FLORIDA DOI AND AG's OFFICE TO GIVE TESTIMONY TO THOSE AUTHORITIES WHICH IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR SEVEN AND ONE-BILLION IN TOTAL COSTS INCLUDING RESTITUTION TO THE COMPANY'S VICTIMS, LEGAL FEES TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND LEVIED REGULATOR FINES.
: : : : : : : : TALK ABOUT THE SAYING, "PAY THE PARKING TICKET?" PRU WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER SERVED PAYING ME THE $250,000 IN ACTUAL DAMAGES I OFFERED TO SETTLE WITH THEM FOR THAT THEY HAD CAUSED ME WHICH I DEMANDED OF THE COMPANY BECAUSE THE COMPANY HAD PERMITTED THE "CHURNING" OF MY RENWAL ACCOUNT WHICH EVENTUALLY COST THE COMPANY $7.5-BILLION.
: : : : : : : : I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE LAW AND THE LEGAL SYSTEM. THE REASON I DO IS BECAUSE MAN HAS WRITTEN THE LAW TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. WHEN PERSONS VIOLATE LAWS, THE LAW THEN PROVIDES AN AVENUE FOR THE VICTIMS OF MAN'S LAW TO SEEK SATISFACTION AND PUNISHMENT FROM THOSE WHO VIOLATE THE LAW.
: : : : : : : : STEVE MAY HAVE THOUGHT THAT WHEN HE WROTE TO ME, "P*SS ON YOUR ATTORNEY" HE WAS DEMONSTRATING THAT HE IS OVER AND ABOVE REPROACH SCOFFING MY CANADIAN ATTORNEY. MY ATTORNEY DID NOT THINK THAT STEVE WISE ENOUGH TO HAVE BELITTLED HIM EITHER. WHEN STEVE WROTE WHAT HE DID, ALL STEVE DID WAS DEMONSTRATE TO MY ATTORNEY HOW BRAZEN HE IS AND SUPPORTED BY PERSONAL VIEWS ABOUT STEVE.
: : : : : : : : I ASK YOU THIS, "DOUBT". WHEN STEVE IS SERVED WITH NOTIFICATION, WILL YOU BE POSTING A MESSAGE HERE SAYING THAT YOU WERE WRONG IN "DOUBTING" ME?
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: : : : : : : : : After reading through all this nonsense and silliness I am only convinced of this: There is no lawsuit against steve. It is a bluff. There will not be a lawsuit against Mislead or Mike and there definitely will not be a lawsuit against Steve C.
: : : : : : : : : Ken is like the boy who cried wolf. He has threatened so many lawsuits that now nobody takes him seriously. He is trapped and cannot figure a way out. That is why he is begging steve to "settle" with him over on the PFS Wars board. Ken knows that people have figured out that a capital murder case can be put together faster than his little internet allegations even if he does have "six boxes" of message traffic. It is obvious that there is no lawyer, no lawsuit, no case. It is all a bluff. Lawyers don't get offended and refuse to talk to their adversaries because someone said "piss on your lawyer". This isn't a kindergarden playground. Lawyers don't tell their client to keep posting nonsense on message boards. A real lawyer would have told Ken to get off the boards entirely until the case was heard.
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: : : : : : : : : : My advisories that I inform people like you who are too cowardly to face me nose to nose if they don't zip it up have come to past as it is about to happen to Steve. Misled is in line and the Mike, and so on and so on until all of you learn your lesson once and for all not by me, but by the court.
: : : : : : : : : : My life has touched millions of people who have thanked me for my work. You life supports your filthy mouth. You will slip up, just as the others eventually have, I will recognize when you do and then it will be your turn in a court of law. What are you going to tell the court, you were just having some on the Internet?
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