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Posted by Keith (216.222.46.178) on June 18, 2003 at 20:36:08:

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: accident posted by KEN YOUNG on June 18, 2003 at 09:33:36:

Actually kenny, you impress no one. I know the answers to both questions. There is no "internet website" where you obtain this information. I obtained it during my 15+ year career as a multi-lines adjuster, my BA in Economics, Associate in Claims and finally Chartered Property and Casualty Underwriter designation.

And by the way--I haven't been "uniformed" since I wore my US Army Captain's uniform several years ago.

No, you do not have permission to speak freely, Private Young.


: : So tell us all, oh insurance wizard, oh learned one, two questions:

: : 1. What does PIP stand for and is it present in every state? --------->>> PERSONAL INJURY PROTECTION. WHY DID YOU HAVE TO COME TO ME IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE ANSWER. AFTERALL, THE DEFINITION IS LISTED ON THAT INTERENT INSURANCE WEBSITE YOU ARE GETTING YOUR INFORMATION FROM. OH BY THE WAY, I SEE THAT WHEN YOU RESPONDED TO ME YOU PARROTED ME TO MAKE IT APPEAR THAT YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YOUR POSTING YOU WROTE, "ADULT".
: YOU'RE PATHETIC.

: : 2. Why did you seeminly separate medical/medpay coverage and bodily injury coverage? If she had no PIP/med pay coverage, would BI cover her medical bills in the settlement or not?
: ---------------------------->>>> YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT PIP IS DO YOU? PIP...PERSONAL INJURY PROTECTION "PERSONAL", KEITH.

: : I know you won't answer the questions because you don't know.----------------------->>>> YOU KNOW NOTHING AND THAT'S THE POINT I AM GETTING OVER TO YOU. SOMEONE HAS TO ENLIGHTEN YOU TO THE TRUTH, AND I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO AN INTERNET PUBLICATION ON INSURANCE LIKE YOU DO BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RETAINED FROM EXPERIENCE UNLIKE YOU AND YOUR BS ATTEMPTING TO IMPRESS PEOPLE.

: : Again, a battle of knowledge with you is much like the movie "The Untouchables" - as the great Sean Connery's character said - "...always bringing a knife to a gunfight"...

: ------------------------>>>>>> THERE IS NO "BATTLE", IT IS JUST A UNIFORMED KEITH ATTEMPTING TO GAIN SOME RESPECT FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE WITH HIS LITTLE INSURRECTION.

: SO TELL US KEITH, DO YOU ADMIT OR DENY THAT YOU HAVE NEVER HELD A 240 PERSONAL LINES P&C LICENSE.

: : Your lack of knowledge and sanity is amusing.
: -------------------->>>>>> YOUR LACK OF INSURANCE KNOWLEDGE IS THREATENING AND YOUR SANITY IN ATTEMPTING TO HOODWINK THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING THAT MUCH OF THE INSURANCE INFORMATION YOU POST TO MESSAGE BOARDS IS DANGEROUS.

: I CAN NOT SPEAK FOR THE PRU ILLINOIS REGION, BUT IN FLORIDA AND TEXAS IT WAS MANDATORY FOR A NEWE AGENT TO OBTAIN HE PERSONAL LINES P&C LICENSE WITHIN TWO-YEARS OF HIS EMPLOYMENT DATE.

: THEREFORE, THERE IS A POSSIBILTY THAT BUBBA FAT MIKE WEAVER AT ONE TIME HELD A PERSONAL LINES P&C LICENSE. THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN IS, OBVIOUSLY HE DID NOT USE THAT LICENSE HARDLY AT ALL BECAUSE, WHEN THE PRU FIRED HIM IF THEY HAD NOT, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN EARNING $8.77 A WEEK IN TOTAL NEW BUSINESS COMMISSIONS FOR THE NEXT TEN-WEEK PERIOD. THE FORE, I ASSUME THAT HE TOO IS NOT KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT P&C INSURANCE ALSO.

: BOTTOM LINE IS, IF I LET YOU HANG AROUND ME YOU WILL GET YOUR INSURANCE EDUCATION YOU SO DESPIRATELY NEED BUT AS A TOKEN A THANKS YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BASH ME ANYWAY.

: TAKE A HIKE, "BOZO" AND GET A LIFE, HEALTH AND VARIABLE ANNUITY LICENSE. THEN GET YOURSELF A PERSONAL P&C LICENSE ON YOUR OWN, BUT FIRST TAKE A LEARNING COURSE ON THE SUBJECT MATTER AND PAY FOR IT INSTEAD OF ATTEMPTING TO MOOCH OFF OF ME.

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: : : : "Assuming that your son is an adult, yes, he can sue you up to the limits of your insurance Bodily Injury coverage and also for reimbursement of medical costs also if you have that coverage in your policy."

: : : : Bodily injury settlements are determined based upon damages incurred, such as medical costs. Therefore "medical costs" are included in bodily injury coverage. If PIP coverage or medical payments are available under the policy (often $3,000-5,000 for medical expenses only), then that coverage would be paid outside of any lawsuit and without regard to whether your son may sue you.

: : : : "Since you say you were at fault for the accident, don't be surprised if the company raises your premium. Ask your son to pay for the increase in your insurance premium, only fair."

: : : : ??? This woman is obviously quite distraught. I do not see how an obviously flippant statement, trivializing her situation helps her.

: : : : Bottom line--consult an attorney in your state. Your son does not "automatically" have the right to sue you, and such suit may not be defended under your policy. Ask your attorney for an interpretation, not your agent or adjuster.

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: : : : : : It depends upon the state. MOST states have done away with the Family Immunity Doctrine, which holds that you cannot sue family members.

: : : : : : Consult an attorney - this is sticky as well if he is a minor. In addition, take your actual insurance policy to the attorney and see if the thinks such a suit would be defended by your insurance company--some companies try to exclude intrafamily suits from coverage.

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: : : : : : : My son and i were in a car accident it was my fault but my son was hurt real bad and almost died can he sue my insu company even if i am his mother /
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: : : Oh I see that you now are adding PIP coverage to make it appear that you were thinking about before when you answered the inquiry.

: : : That makes three times now over the past few months you responded to a question erroneously without taking everything into consideration and when you were caught at it, you change your story about the coverage by adding an endorsement.

: : : Sure the inquirer is concerned, who wouldn't be it is her son. I give her a logical answer to the dilemma of the premium increase so she will not be burdened with the payment of an increase premium and then you open your mouth attempting to bash me again.

: : : I don't even think you are licensed. I think that you may simply be a Internet librarian looking up insurance information on the Internet reading it and then spewing on these message boards, and that's why you refuse to stand by what you post by letting everyone know who they are talking to. If that be the case, then you are a Charlatan, but a better speller than I am and nothing more than that.

: : : Let's alos not forget you were a PFS Agent at one time and you failed having your appointment cancelled on you by the company.

: : : Tell us, how much time did you spend with PFS working consumers over using your false, misleading and deceptive inducement presentations also to earn a living?

: : : By the way, when I receive "fightingutah" e-mail, if automatically goes into my spam mail and is deleted without being read.

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: : : : : You say your son was in your car and I am assuming he was the only passenger. You have also stated that the accident was your fault.

: : : : : Assuming that your son is an adult, yes, he can sue you up to the limits of your insurance Bodily Injury coverage and also for reimbursement of medical costs also if you have that coverage in your policy.

: : : : : Please keep in mind that he would be suing you technically, but since your insurance company represents you, the money paid to settle the claim comes from the company because they represent you.

: : : : : Since you say you were at fault for the accident, don't be surprised if the company raises your premium. Ask your son to pay for the increase in your insurance premium, only fair.

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