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Posted by Todd on September 12, 2003 at 04:34:53:

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: TO: People who are frustrated with PRIMERICA posted by PFS Winner on September 10, 2003 at 07:34:14:

: : : : It's obvious to me based upon your negative comments posted on this board that you'll never be successful at anything you do unless you make some very serious changes in your life.

: : : : You have to have a winning attitude and a decent work ethic to succeed!

: : : : Nothing that's worth anything is easy.

: : : : Primerica is not a scam, it's an opportunity for people to earn a decent living by telling people the truth.

: : : : It's not a get rich quick scheme or MLM. The part of it that you think is MLM is just icing on the cake. There is a real opportunity to make 6 figures in about a year or two, if you work for it. And that is just by being a producer (a hard worker). If you're not willing to work for it, then you should just as well be happy just where your at.

: : : : The only person stopping yourself from being successful is YOU!

: : : : You have to think like a winner to be one. Take a look at your current situation and attitude and do your own soul searching.

: : : : If not Primerica than someplace else, but the key is YOU!

: : :
: : : PFS Winner,

: : : The tone of your comments is the typical MLM attitude..."if you didn't make it, then it's because you're a complete failure." In practice, I completely agree w/ you that this industry is a very tough. However, there is a clear difference in my opinion between having a winning attitude and having the desire to recruit the world so they can make money for you, blah blah blah. We could debate the drawbacks of MLMs all day long, but that's not the purpose for my reply. While I agree w/ part of the message you are trying to convey, I must completely disagree w/ your statement "that you'll never be successful at anything you do..." Althought I did work for Primerica, I worked for another well known MLM and I consider it a complete failure. I left the industry and hav since returned to as I like to refer to it, "do it right this time." So while I may have failed at the MLM route, I'm very much succeeding at running my own Managing General Agent agency/broker-dealer. In fact, I bet that if I were to take some of your unsuccessful, "never going to win" ex-Primerica people, train them properly and assist them the way a true MGA should, they could potentially become just as successful as you.

: : : In sum, while I agree that the "you" are important to your own success, sometimes the "only person stopping yourself from success," at least in my case, was being associated with an MLM.

: : Well said, not everybody that leaves Primerica is a loser. In fact, I would say it's the other way around.

:
: Great comments gentlemen.

: You're right, not everybody that leaves Primerica
: is a loser. That is if they left having the right attitude. If you have the right attitude about it, Primerica would be a great place to start your career in this type of industry. Low startup costs and a plethora of industry and self improvement and motivational support are available to you.

: I guess my main point is that YOU have to have the right attitude and YOU are the only one that caontrol your destiny anywhere, period!

: Have a great day!

Wow, finally! It's nice to see someone like yourself concede a couple of points, because too often the Primerica, WFG/WMA, HBW, etc people don't think about what they're saying and just end up re-stating the same things over and over again.

To show my respect and appreciation for that, I shall concede that you have a very good point about getting started in the industry. I mean, hell... that's how I did it!! BUT, had I been more confident that this was the industry I wanted to work in at the time, I would have wanted to take a diffrent route and I still must encourage those that are willing and/or able to make that jump/commitment to a new career to consider all your options. The training and product support provided by working directly for an insurance company or a well-established MGA can sometimes far exceed that of the MLMs. Of course, the trade-off for training is motivation. Obivously MLMS have a lot more motivation (way too much in my opinion) than their alternatives...but for people like msyelf who are truly self-motivators, that's fine with me. Let's not forget, if you make that jump and the bills are piling up, that's some pretty damn strong motiviation to get off your lazy butt and do what you came to this industry to do, right? Anyways, back to talking about training. We should just be honest about it here...many (but I'm not saying all) branches, downlines, or whatever you want to call them are simply the "blind leading the blind" when it comes to product knowledge and real-world experience. I see a lot of people using the saying "don't take advice from someone worse then you." Well ok, say that but then walk the walk like you talk the talk. In other words, don't learn from someone who hasn't been relatively successful within this industry for a good amount of time!! = )

Anyways, thanks for the intelligent and mature discussion PFS Winner.


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